Bush bashing and other sports practiced by idiots

I'm dubious truthserum. Two-term presidents usually don't get looked on harshly by the history books.

Once history plays itself out Bush will probably be seen as one of the worst presidents in a very long time.I dislike Bush just an much as the next guy, but when I sit around a room with a bunch of die hard repubs, they even have a hard time defending this clown.

"I believe that Howard is crafting a message." ...hmmm You mean like republicans are brain dead, that they couldn't get black people to support them with out calling in the hotel staff, that they haven't worked an honest days work, or yeaaaaargh. I think I've got his message.

A lot of the criticisms of Bush on this website are true. No doubt about it.

The criticisms I am reading here about how alternative visions are not being offered up is also true.

I believe that Howard is crafting a message. Hopefully we will see what it consists of soon.

In the meantime, El Shrubbo has proven that if you don't breathe down his neck, he goes right off the deep end, every time. I do agree that he is doing "the best job he knows how to do." But I would also posit that Nero probably did the same thing.

Cooper,

I'm not sure what gave you the impression I don't care. I actually volunteered to serve in the military in February of this year. I'll begin serving a year of duty in Iraq in the next 90 days.

Government is corrupt by its nature - government represents power, and power corrupts.

You're right, the rather lengthy mess in Iraq is my business, and I don't feel that I should be offering up my opinions unless I'm willing to back them up.

I think that taking the war to the Middle East was the right thing to do, and I don't believe I've been lied too about the reasons for the war. I have clear memories of the twin towers crumbling, and I know that extremist Muslims have been hijacking planes and blowing stuff up since before I was born in the name of Allah.

I'm willing to fight that sort of thing. Our system of government is flawed, but it certainly allows us more freedom than Osama Bin Laden or Musab Al-Zarqawi would, were they in charge of the world's only superpower.

Where is it you want us to go, cooper?

Bush is certainly not the only thing that has caused us to be despised by the rest of the world. He and his minions however are part of the reason we are hated more now. If you do not care that your government lied to you due to the fact that they had a totally different agenda and that agenda has now turned into a rather lengthy mess that is surely your business. I find it rather appalling.
There is not doubt that corruptions and illegal acts got him elected the first time and quite likely the second time. This is really neither here nor there however. Government has been corrupt for a very long time. Both parties are shameful and my party, the party I have been a member of for such a short time has been nothing short of a bunch of ineffectual whiners. I certainly have no idea where to go from here but I hope we go somewhere else.

Rbo,

Bush is often portrayed as an illiterate chimp, or a retard. He's also portrayed as the master of evil. Which is it? Please, show me the things that you think Dubya is being disingenuous about and we'll discuss. If your sources have merit, then I'm willing to consider them. I'm not a big fan of the coffee klatch morning show on Fox, and I can't listen to their news for long, it's too sensationalist.

You may notice I don't blog about many of their headline stories...

Thanks for not bashing the other side. But I have to disagree. Bush is the worst president since Harding. You wrote that "George W. Bush is a man with a shitty job doing the best he knows how, as far as I can tell from the information available to me."

Where on earth are you getting your information? You're either watching Fox all the time or you're not digging much for information.

Here’s a list of why they think people hate Bush:

1. Bush and his oligarchic companions sabotaged American democracy so they could pillage taxpayer resources.

GWB hasn't sold nukes to China and North Korea like our previous "Glorious leader".

2. Bush and his cabal of henchmen lied to the American people about Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq, and they continue to obfuscate the truth while their companies cash in, Iraqis suffer and American soldiers die.

Option A: If GWB and the Republicans lied about WMDs, then so did the two previous Co-Presidents, then Sec of State, the Veep, John Kerry, former Sec of Defense, and all others. All of them listed (including GWB the the GOP are out-right liars.
Option B: The intel was bad just as how our inteligence was flawed about the Soviet Union before the USSR fell. Somehow only the Republican Admin is wrong, while the Democrat Admin was "innocently" tricked by the pesky Saddam.

Option A and B cannot both be true. My money is on Option B.

3. Bush is bad for business and the economy. He is only interested in enriching himself and his friends.

Yep, that's why the Unemployment rate for the last year has followed the same trend that Bill Clinton had after his re-election. (I read about this on a blog in the last few days, LGF, Pardon My English, Dummocrats, or something like that, I can't find it now.)

4. Bush is bad for the future. He is compromising the prosperity of tomorrow’s America by shortchanging today’s children.
In other words, GWB is taking power away from the teachers unions, the biggest single supporters of the Democrats. Yawn. I'd rather have children learn like they're supposed to than for some fat cat union worker to get his "required" quota for paid days off, while our kids are getting stupider.

5. Bush is bad for the environment.

Environmental damage takes many years to fully mature, a shift in executive control won't be visible immediately, so this is an unproveable statement. America's technology to scrub pollutants out of the air is much better now than even 10 years ago, older more-polluting cars are leaving the roads every year, while newer cleaner cars are replacing them. As the years go by the air is getting cleaner.

6. The Bush Administration has manipulated the media to the point of undermining the Constitutional guarantees of a Free Press.

WOW! I'd love to see the report that proves this one! Could you please send me a copy of it from

Bill Burkett's fax machine at Kinko's, but send it by way of CBS 60 Minutes and Dan Rather. Or you could get Newsweek to "leak" a story about it. Or call up the NY Times, they'll be sure to get Jayson Blair to cover the story, or call up the Guardian UK for their wonderful "How could 62 Million US Voters be so dumb?" story. Or call Paul Krugman, Bill Moyers, or MTV. All great stalwarts of unbiased journalism. At least Fox News admits they have a conservative bias in their opinion shows, while the former MSM has yet to do so with their straight news shows.

7. Bush has tried to undermine the United Nations, a democratic institution created in large measure by Presidents Eisenhower and Truman. Without even understanding what the UN does, Bush has called it “irrelevant” when it fails to fall in line with his dictates.
Oil For Food scandal, biggest money laundering job in world history... I think the UN deserves another chance like Communism. It's only raped women and children in Rwanda, that's nothing to worry about while we have the evil Chimpy McBushHitler in office!!!!11!

8. Bush is inarticulate and projects a stereotype abroad of Americans being ignorant and myopic.

And I'm sure every leftie blogger, and self-aggrandizer can point out Ukraine on the map, and give it's latest voter turn out, and who won their last election, all the while not being able to ask anyone for help.

9. Bush torpedoes global agreements on everything from racism and global warming to biological weapons and land mines, and then expects the world to line up behind him.

You mean the Kyoto Agreement which was also shot down 99 to zip in the Clinton era US Senate building? That "global warming" agreement. The same agreement that Russia, China, India and Brazil all are poo-pooing now? Last time I checked global agreements on racism won't do jack in America, since the people are independent of the government.

10. Bush took positive patriotism and global support in the wake of 9/11 and forced it behind his own narrow self-interest in Iraq. He hijacked 9/11 for his own benefit.

What you meant to say is, "America didn't band over and grab her ankles after 9-11 and bow to all knowing France and Germany for information on what to do to appease our Muslim attackers."

11. Bush stands against everything America stands for.

Bush is so anti-America, that over 50% of Americans voted for him and supported him. That sounds about right in the Bizarro World.

Nick,

The older I get the more lucky I feel to have been raised to question authority. I am tired of the nanny state mentality and I'm tired of both parties touting more government as a fix for all our social ills.

I write my senators too, and get their form letters back. The longer they ignore people like me, the more peril our system of government is in.

Trevor, the older I get, the further away I seem to align with the democratic party. I have always voted democrat and if things continue the way they are with the republicans, I probably will continue too.

I completely agree with you on those points you made in your last post. The Democrats aren't doing shit.

So, what are the Democrats doing now? Absolutely nothing and it pisses me off. They are doing now what Republicans are doing to Bill Clinton. In their defense, there is a lot more that this administration is putting on the line, so, it's natural for Democrats to whine.

The thing that scares me the most about the whole situation is government slowly moving towards a form of religious facism. Not trying to invoke Godwin's Law but, Mussolini used to say Facism was the merger of big business and government. This is both parties perpetuating it for years and years. I do Bush bash, but, I also write my senator. I wish more people would do the latter.

The Democrats problem is that when complain about a problem, the solution to the problem is always something worse than the problem. At least 90% of the time.

Guns are a problem? Let's get rid of them. Then only criminals will have guns.

Health care a problem? Let's give everyone crappy healthcare and make sure it's bloated with bureaucracy.

People not following the current laws and rules? Make more.

The Democrats need to trade in the majority of their leading tards for people like Zell Miller if they want to have any hope.

If I were in charge most Democratic consituents wouldn't be able to vote, because you wouldn't be born with the right to vote, you'd have to earn it.

The system isn't perfect, but the Democrats, as far as I can see aren't offering any viable alternatives. If there's a Democrat who reads this and disagrees, I would love to hear from you - what is the Democratic Party doing to make things better in this country?

I think the Democrats need to develop some plans and then they can attack the Republicans. If they just complain they are hypocrites for not doing something about the problems in America.