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The decline of American education

This blog entry is a detailed response to Patrick Stone, who takes issue with me for my comments about Ulrica Corbett and the state of public education in the United States. Our dialogue is based on my original Ulrica Corbett post of several days ago. Ulrica Corbett is the school principal who ignored a request for a Marine to come and visit one of the classes in her school and thereby ignited an angry response from the pro-U.S. military portion of the blogosphere.

For the record, my problem with public schools is that they no longer make education a priority. Rather, in many cases, public schools seem to focus on indoctrination and medication.

US 15-year-olds scored measurably better than their counterparts in only 3 of 30 nations in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development in a new test of problem-solving in math.

The Christian Science Monitor

1) Me:“It seems to me that Ulrica Corbett was the one muddying the issue by ignoring the request (for the Marine to visit).”

Stone: Seems. Your assumption isn’t necessarily the truth and I see little to support such an assumption. Do you know something the rest of us do not? Have you done some kind of Vulcan mind-meld with her and now know her motives?

Me: Assumptions are a valid survival mechanism. I use assumptions to make decisions in situations when I am faced with incomplete information and time constraints. For instance, if I filled out a bureaucratic form and it was ignored, I might assume that I needed to proceed on my own recognizance.

2) Me: “Are you a public school administrator by any chance?”

Stone: No. But then, the issue isn’t me, right?

Me: I’m not sure yet. I haven’t quite figured out why you’re defending Ms. Corbett so vehemently.

3) Me: “I can’t figure out why you are such a strong defender of someone who thinks that a U.S. Marine represents a threat to the safety and welfare of U.S. schoolchildren. Reaching such a conclusion is indicative of poor ability to reason on the part of Ulrica Corbett.”

Stone:Wow… we’ve gone from her not approving a request to assuming she now considering Richardson a “threat.” You must teach me this Vulcan trick of yours. I would very much like to peer into the heads of others and divine their innermost thoughts. That’s remarkable!

Me: The words of Ulrica Corbett seem pretty clear to me, “My decision not to allow Zach Richardson to speak with the students on Monday came out of my regard for the safety and welfare of our children.” I too find her conclusion that Sgt. Richardson represented a threat to the safety and welfare of American school children remarkable. That’s why I’m blogging the topic.

4) Me: “By the way, you win the $2 fancy word contest for using discursive in a sentence.”

Stone: “Discursive” is a fancy word? (Shrug.)

BTW, that’s suspiciously close to an ad hominem comment. Am I to be insulted for using “fancy” words? Does that make me a pointy-headed liberal elitist or something? Let’s keep the topic at hand in mind and steer clear of personal comments. Can we do that?

Me: We can do that.

5) Me: “So far, that I am aware of, her only statement has been that she was doing it for the “safety of the children,” which is an incredible pile of steaming bullshit.”

Stone: Sigh… you don’t understand what she means by that because (as you have admitted) you don’t volunteer your time in public schools. You’re assuming she’s stupid and doesn’t understand what a Marine is. The reality is that she (along with the rest of our pathetically under-funded public schools) is under a lot of pressure to keep track of who comes and goes and to make sure someone *is* who they claim they are–and that takes time to do, time that they simply don’t have to spare.

Me: Pathetically underfunded? You’re living in a dream world. I suggest you read the article linked in the quote below.

Among more than 25 industrialized nations, no country spends more public and private money to educate each student than the United States, according to an annual review by the Paris-based Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.

School administrators should be focused on educating students, not “protecting” them. It speaks volumes about our society that our priorities for school administrators have shifted from educating students to nannying them.

Stone:What’s to stop a terrorist from dressing up and claiming to be an active duty Marine who wants to speak to the kids in some class? As a school admin, I assume you would throw caution and policy to the wind and bow down before the uniform and let such a person have free reign of the school, right?

Most terrorists don’t have a valid military ID card. Also, Matthew Lund is clearly not going to vouch for someone who is a terrorist. If I were a school administrator, I would a) trust my teacher to prescreen visitors they are requesting b) check Sgt. Richardson’s military ID card and speak to him if I had any feeling that things weren’t kosher c) called Sgt. Richardson’s command if necessary to verify who he was and d) thanked Sgt. Richardson for his service to country and for speaking to the kids.

6) Stone: Probably. Do me a favor. If you ever get into school administration, let me know. I want to keep my kids as far away from your school as humanly possible.

Me: I hope your kids manage to grow up with some common sense and independent thinking skills even though the odds are stacked against them. It could happen if they only pretend to swallow their Ritalin and spit it out when you and Ms. Corbett aren’t looking.

Update: Reason Magazine article called How Schools Cheat. Read it. Thanks to Liberty Dog for his related article.

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  • Holly,

    I'll do a seperate post explaining who Neal Boortz is - he's an important influencer in my life. You're a teacher of Spanish. Neal is a teacher of libertarian principles.

    You, as a teacher, not being able to fight the system is by design. Our politicians are constantly redesigning the government at local, state and federal levels so that American citizens are less and less able to have any meaningful input in the decisions that are being made for them - decisions that will ultimately shape and change the course of many lives, here and abroad.

    I really appreciate your continued input here.
  • Great description of administrators! I think you hit the nail on the head with "They must constantly trade principles for money..." and this is what kills me. I don't feel that I can fight the system or object really. So, all I can do is be the best teacher I can (which I try to be daily) but I don't always succeed. Who is Neal Boortz? I quickly looked at his webpage - but maybe you could give a brief explanation of what he does? Thanks for your encouragement!
  • Administrators in a teaching environment, should, at heart, be teachers. The problem is that in our current public education system, they must be politicians, not teachers. And politicians, by their very nature, are whores. Whores are fine when they're honest, but political whores are not honest. They must constantly trade principles for money, which is a soul rotting type of activity.

    Holly, focus on being the best teacher you can be! And if you run afoul of the beast called administrator, you always have the power of the blogosphere and powerful allies like Neal Boortz to help you mitigate their evil nature :)
  • My experience with administrators has not been great. From my perspective it is all about "politics". I am really happy at my school but it is NOT perfect. I try to stay in my room and teach without getting too upset about how things are handled (or should I say NOT handled). I would love to work for someone who had the balls to kick a kid out of school (no matter how much money the family has)for verbally threatening a teacher - which happened to me and nothing was done. But I could go on and on! You are right - they seem to be more concerned with everything else BUT the actual education of our youth. I wouldn't want to be an administrator - yuck- my heart is in teaching. And I'm not good at kissing *ss, you know?
  • Holly,

    I'm honestly not sure why Mr. Stone is defending Ms. Corbett. I only wish that we had more teachers and administrators interested in educating, not indoctrinating.

    I don't know what it is like at your school - I hope the administrators there demonstrate better time management and decision making abilities than those displayed by Ulrica Corbett.
  • I will be starting my 9th year as a teacher and I've taught in both public and private schools. I can't even believe the comments I just read! If these kids wrote letters to this soldier, why doesn't Corbett know about it and why didn't the teacher who organized it explain to Corbett what was going on so that they could quickly do some kind of check to make sure he really was who he said he was - since she was ONLY concerned with safety.
    This was clearly not a "safety" issue - any experienced teacher knows that. I just don't understand why Mr. Stone is so set in "stone" (yes, pun intended) on this issue when he doesn't appear to be an educator. It doesn't make sense to deny someone the chance to thank students for their kindness. Mr. Stone's attempt to play the "safety" card is weak and not convincing at all. I agree as well with Trevor.
  • With 14 years in a high school classroom, I can attest to the fact that Trevor knows what he's talking about. See my archives "So, you want to be a teacher," "US Education: Most Kids Are Left Behind," "Principals without Principles," "A New Definition of Integrity," and "A Conspiracy Theory" for a glimpse, not of education as school officials would have you see it, but as it really is. American parents, their kids, and all taxpayers are being seriously cheated. Parents, because they choose not to see it as long as "Little Johnny" gets passing grades; kids because they are too immature to realize the damage that is being done to them; taxpayers because in addition to being deceitful, public education is criminally wasteful. The quote attributed to the Christian Science Monitor is "right on" the mark.

    Not allowing a veteran to visit with the kids is only the tip of the iceberg. There is plenty of opportunity for Muslims to visit with the kids and fill them full of lies about Islam -- but no room for a veteran? Ms. Corbett's decision in this case was simply disgraceful, and I'll even go so far as to say that anyone who supports the principal in this case is a lousey American.
  • pissedbroad
    i know
    it's only criminal mischief, really. and six weeks tops, jailtime. i kinda think jail would be a nice vacation.
    not really. he should be bringing me my shit tommorrow. or i'll be getting it myself...
    yeah, bitch better come correct with my c.d.s.
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