Comments on: Universal health care future: woman dies on waiting room floor

By: Trevor

Trevor — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:17:34 +0000

I think that “universal” healthcare is inevitable. The something for nothing mentality is too ingrained in our society for it not to happen. Doesn’t mean I have to agree with it. Doesn’t mean there isn’t a better system that we could come up with. Doesn’t mean Congress, the body that will make it the law of the land will receive the same mediocre health care as everyone else. I guarantee that they will have a much better system with more wide ranging treatment choices, more personal care and overall higher quality of care.

By: hildeaux

hildeaux — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 06:49:23 +0000

you realize that in this ridiculous fantasy you’re creating where you’re forced to pay for other people, you would be getting the healthcare too??

also, i like how the situation you described is eerily similar to what it’s like to have private health insurance now.

By: Abel P. Ochoa

Abel P. Ochoa — Sun, 31 May 2009 18:11:49 +0000

I consider it to be a human right that all people, including all Americans, have all the necessary health care whenever it is needed. It simply is not right that we have a bigger military than the rest of the world and have American citizens unable to care for themselves and their families.

By: Trevor

Trevor — Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:41:55 +0000

No, it is not only about money coming out of my pocket. It is that the money is taken out of my pocket forcibly. If you do not believe that our taxation system is one of coercion, stop paying your taxes and wait for the men with guns to come threaten you. They will come. For a medical system to be efficient it must be voluntary. Yes, one day I may be old and out of work. In fact, I am planning for that day. I have savings, a 401K and other assets that I am building. I do not count on Social Security, although I have been paying into the system my entire working life.

I am saddened by people who lose their life savings because of medical problems. I also think they should have prepared better. I donate some money to charitable organizations to help such people. The donations would be much higher if it were not for the theft that is occurring out of my pocket. This theft occurs by people who did not ask me if I wanted to pay for such and such a project and who will send people with guns to punish me if I decide that their projects are not worth of my money.

I support social networks for people who have bad circumstances, but not at the point of a gun. I support better education too, but it will never happen when a coercive bureaucracy is in charge.

There is no such thing as free health care. Someone must pay for it. If you take away a percentage of my income to pay for the health care of a stranger, without my voluntary consent that is the definition of theft. This may sound harsh but it is also true. Theft is morally wrong, no matter what your intentions are.

When you hide theft behind words like fairness and tell me that one day someone else will inevitably be paying for my health care, you are being slightly insulting. I am not angry at you for that, but I believe you have not thought the issue through properly.

Why is a person who I've never met entitled to the fruits of my labor, against my wishes? Explain this one point satisfactorily and I will never again rail against socialism in any form.

Until you can explain why helping people works better at the point of a gun than it does when I choose who to help with the resources I have gathered, I will keep writing these blog entries, hoping that a few others will understand that our entire federal government is corrupted - predicated on the idea that theft is OK if you do it for good intentions.

I may die alone and penniless. I hope it will not be in a government psychiatric hospital where well meaning people forced me to go against my wishes after having robbed me of portions of my income for my entire life while telling me what they were doing was morally upright because everyone should be forced to pay a middleman with a gun and a rule book who will help us all help everyone else.

By: reasonablecitizen

reasonablecitizen — Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:37:09 +0000

Trevor, Is it only about the money that comes from your pocket? If so, that problem can be solved by a business-to-business tax or it could be solved by a fee on all imports to pay for the America’s healthcare. Let the darn Euro/Japanese-buying public pay for healthcare in America.Better yet, let’s take the money away from farm subsidies and let it pay for healthcare.One day you will be old and out-of -work. You will need continuous medical care to live your final years mobile, without pain, and not bedridden. On that day someone else will be paying for your medical care. Will you then refuse it? If we cannot use the wealth of America to take care of the old, the infirm, the mentally deficient, the very young, and the person born with health problems then what has Man wrought with the abilities that God gave him?I don’t know that I support any specific plan as the answer but I do support a plan to provide healthcare for those who need it. It is indeed sad in America that free healthcare can only occur when your family savings are drained and your house is sold to pay your medical bills.There are people who once owned their homes and had good jobs until their health went bad. They lost their jobs first, then their homes, and then their life savings.